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Approved proposals Edit

Saikhan Edit

11-26-2012 Edit

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File:Saikhan proposal 3.png|Proposed replacement #3
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This discussion is closed. The result of this discussion was:
Proposal 3 will be the new image.
Please do not edit this discussion.

In the current image, Saikhan is wearing his original uniform, which he only wore in two of the five episodes he appeared in. In addition, the helmet also obstructs some of his features, and his face is a bit out of focus. The proposed image gives a close view of his face and facial features, shows him in the Chief of Police uniform, which is important to his character, and portrays the appearance he had when he played major role in the mid-to-last episodes. —Random Ranaun (Talk to me!) 11:22, November 26, 2012 (UTC)

Approved for discussion.
I disagree. While he is wearing the Captain's uniform (or whatever that was), he is depicted much clearer as a police officer there. In the proposed, part of his head is cut off, it's too much of a close-up imo, and you can hardly see the Chief uniform, so that doesn't bring anything extra to the image and doesn't outweigh the downsides of the close shot. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 11:31, November 26, 2012 (UTC)
I also disagree. The current image has a better ratio and proportion, as the proposed is out of proportion; I mean it's too close-up as LL said. Also the current wearing his usual-outfit, with uncropped image. The proposed image is cropped on his head. Acer Evan Seek anything about fanon! Jet sprite 11:43, November 26, 2012 (UTC)
Just to be clear, the proposed image isn't cropped, the current one is. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 12:32, November 26, 2012 (UTC)
XD Oh, my bad. I mean the head, as you can see the proposed shows not a full-head of Saikhan. Sorry about my grammatical errors. Acer Evan Seek anything about fanon! Jet sprite 13:15, November 26, 2012 (UTC)

Cropped just means that a part of the image was deliberately cut out -that's not the case here with the proposed. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 15:18, November 26, 2012 (UTC)

I support the current per Lady and Acer. His face also takes up too much space in the proposal, and the top of his head is cut off. --AvatarRokus Ghost (Message meRead my fanon) Aang Cosmic Toph-DoBS-2 15:28, November 26, 2012 (UTC)
That was I mean! >.< Cut off. Acer Evan Seek anything about fanon! Jet sprite 15:45, November 26, 2012 (UTC)

I like the proposed one better because it is more in focus, even though his head is somewhat cut off. I think being blurry is worse than being slightly cut off because the cut off part is just the very top of his head, not his mouth or something. TheLoKnessmonster Sokka-sprite 23:23, November 26, 2012 (UTC)

I prefer the current image. In addition to what everyone has said about the proposed, I'd also like to point out the man in the background, which I find to be rather distracting. Ozai Spirte The Final BattleSparks From HadesAzula sprite23 23:37, November 26, 2012 (UTC)
I disagree. The proposed replacement is not that great of a picture. You can't tell he's a cop, and the focus isn't always on him. Per everyone. The current image is better. Appa-dobs1HenryJh 98 (BlogsFOTHParallel)Appa Sprite 00:11, November 27, 2012 (UTC)
Disagree, per everyone ChakraJoo Dee SpriteDai Li Sprite Sandwich 00:23, November 27, 2012 (UTC)
As others have said, current is better. Perhaps an image of him during his acceptance speech; he doesn't wear his helmet then. Katara End Sprite Ruen Katara Sprite Season 3 00:28, November 27, 2012 (UTC)

I added another proposal, just to get another option out in the open. —Random Ranaun (Talk to me!) 15:45, November 27, 2012 (UTC)

I'm still for the current one. The new proposal is heavily cropped, making Saikhan appear too...liny imo. When enlarged, the image looks like it was taken from a comic as the lines are rather hard (if you get what I'm trying to say). Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 15:55, November 27, 2012 (UTC)

Just added another one. Again, just to get more options out there. —Random Ranaun (Talk to me!) 16:28, November 27, 2012 (UTC)

Proposal three doesn't look bad. It's similar to the current, but has the benefit of not having the helmet which smudges his face, an outdated uniform, and that huge glare in the background. Ozai Spirte The Final BattleSparks From HadesAzula sprite23 22:33, November 27, 2012 (UTC)

I support proposal #1. The proposal has a good close up on his face then the current. TheBigO Fan Bolin sprite Be the leaf 00:07, November 28, 2012 (UTC)

I'll still take the current - though it would be nice to have his chief's uniform in the PI, the best potential shot of that is three, and per SFH, there's really a few not-so-appealing qualities that cause me to fall short of supporting it. PSUAvatar14 Want to have a word? Katarasprite1Ty Lee KW 00:09, November 28, 2012 (UTC)
Gah, I totally misread that opinion - sorry. Disregard. PSUAvatar14 Want to have a word? Katarasprite1Ty Lee KW 00:25, November 28, 2012 (UTC)
I support proposal #3. It clearly displays his position - with the badge and uniform - and it is overall a good view of him; the lighting is also more suitable than the excessive brightness in the first image. Annawantimes (Talk) 00:21, November 28, 2012 (UTC)

I added another one with his hat that cover his balding. I know there's some of Lin's hair over there, but this one shows him as a "full" Chief of Police.I declare Shenanigans! (talk) 03:30, November 28, 2012 (UTC)

Okay, for now, after 3 more proposals I want to say I support #4. I like how the image depicts a full of Saikhan, overall a nice view. The coloring ,qualities, etc. I can't say more except great, all great. Just a little bit awkward, just my cent. Acer Evan Seek anything about fanon! Jet sprite 16:27, November 28, 2012 (UTC)
I still prefer proposal three. Although four does have a few benefits regarding his outfit and the general lighting, far too much of Lin's head is visible in the corner and this blows the focus of the image out of the center, where Saikhan is. Ozai Spirte The Final BattleSparks From HadesAzula sprite23 22:34, November 28, 2012 (UTC)
I favor proposal #3 - high quality, good coloring and lighting and a good view of his metalbending officer uniform to identify him as such. The Ultimate Waterbender 22:59, November 28, 2012 (UTC)
For the reasons mentioned above, I also favor proposal #3. DyingFlameTsui (wallcontribs) 15:52, November 29, 2012 (UTC)

4 per above. Srijay KTechFilmer 17:19, November 29, 2012 (UTC)

3 per others. Number 4 is ok, but a better shot would be that of him without his helmet on so we can see his face clearly to know right away who he is as opposed to a generic metalbender officer. Katara End Sprite Ruen Katara Sprite Season 3 07:51, November 30, 2012 (UTC)

Shiro Shinobi Edit

11-30-2012 Edit

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File:Shiro Shinobi proposal 5.png|Proposed replacement #5
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File:Shiro Shinobi proposal 7.png|Proposed replacement #7
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This discussion is closed. The result of this discussion was:
Proposal 7 will be used
Please do not edit this discussion.

The current image was taken back when "Welcome to Republic City" and "A Leaf in the Wind" were the only episodes available, and, while not completely horrible, it does have its flaws. Some of the most commonly cited ones are his eyes and expression, not to mention his slightly awkward pose. Shiro Shinobi has appeared in two more episodes and has had quite a lot of scenes since this image was added, and while some of them may not be entirely ideal, I felt it was best to try and get as many proposed images as possible. —Random Ranaun (Talk to me!) 07:34, November 30, 2012 (UTC)

Approved for discussion.
I don't really see the dire need to change this one as I find the current one to be okay, especially when the first three proposals either put him in an awkward position or make his look smug or arrogant. However, if people do feel like it needs to be changed, I added a fourth proposal which puts him in different lighting while still remaining a quite neutral and friendly expression. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 07:56, November 30, 2012 (UTC)
Per Random #2 #1. Srijay KTechFilmer 08:01, November 30, 2012 (UTC)
If awkward positions is a reason to change, #2 makes him look slightly evil and arrogant. That's not only an awkward position, but also a wrongful representation of the man. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 08:05, November 30, 2012 (UTC)
The current one has some minor flaws, but nothing major, and none of these proposals are any better. Katara End Sprite Ruen Katara Sprite Season 3 08:39, November 30, 2012 (UTC)
Sorry for the confusion, I meant No. 1. Srijay KTechFilmer 08:57, November 30, 2012 (UTC)

We have a standard of trying to avoid awkward positions, so imo, that completely rules the bottom-up shot that 1 is out. He also looks overly excited, which makes him look weird overall. My problem with #2 is that is makes him look evil and arrogant, like he is planning to blow up the arena himself, and #3 portrays him with a smug smile on his face, making him look like he thinks he's better than everyone else. The current and #4 are more or less the same image (though mirrored). I am fine with the current, though I support #4 as it is a slightly sharper shot of him and the lighting is a bit better without giving him an awkward (facial) position. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 10:52, November 30, 2012 (UTC)


I added proposal #5, which, I feel, is of the highest quality in terms of position and lighting. —Random Ranaun (Talk to me!) 22:35, November 30, 2012 (UTC)

There is a weird, dark and fuzzy spot in the left corner of the image and he has an extremely awkward expression -being caught mid-sentence like that. All in all, I still feel that 4 is the best option, or the current if that one does not have enough support. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 22:38, November 30, 2012 (UTC)

I don't see a reason to change it, the current one is fine, but if I had to choose, it would be the 4th one, except all the other ones look like he's angry or just plain weird. The 4th one has its flaws too. ChakraJoo Dee SpriteDai Li Sprite Sandwich 02:22, December 1, 2012 (UTC)

That facial expression... Current is still best imo. Katara End Sprite Ruen Katara Sprite Season 3 03:48, December 1, 2012 (UTC)
Everything proposed just... creepy for me. The best is the current. Acer Evan Seek anything about fanon! Jet sprite 04:20, December 1, 2012 (UTC)
I just don't like the weird shadows on the current one. I like the fifth proposed on the best out of all of them.

TheLoKnessmonster Sokka-sprite 00:16, December 4, 2012 (UTC)

Okay, just noticed the fifth, so... Number 5 is better for me; proper lighting and coloring, everything just fine than the proposed. Acer Evan Seek anything about fanon! Jet sprite 13:39, December 4, 2012 (UTC)

Hmm, since when are we disregarding our standard practice of avoiding to use awkward "mid-sentence" images as an infobox image? He looks like he's ready to shove a burger in his mouth, how is that an appropriate infobox image? Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 14:07, December 4, 2012 (UTC)

Mm.... Yeah, I noticed that too, but the other looks creepy. Acer Evan Seek anything about fanon! Jet sprite 14:13, December 4, 2012 (UTC)

How does one not look creepy when the expression is "I'm ready to devour you whole"? We're looking for an image that is of good quality and relatively neutral, just an all-round good representation of the character. That includes for starters his mouth being closed or at least minimally opened if it has to be open. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 14:18, December 4, 2012 (UTC)


Err... I don't really think that's fair. Any other image with his mouth closed makes him look "creepy", or smug or evil, as you mentioned before, which is why I went for one with his mouth open, smiling, in the first place. Nevertheless, I uploaded another proposal. —Random Ranaun (Talk to me!) 02:36, December 5, 2012 (UTC)

Sorry, I didn't mean to insult you or something. I just think that the former proposal is not him smiling, at least not to me. The new proposal is better than the former, but he still looks incredibly awkward and the flaws of the others still outweigh the awkwardness of this one, sorry. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 10:35, December 5, 2012 (UTC)
As it stands, I am fine with the current image. I think it does fine enough with displaying his majority personality without being in an awkward position. PSUAvatar14 Want to have a word? Katarasprite1Ty Lee KW 13:25, December 5, 2012 (UTC)
I'll be completely honest here: Shinobi's expression in all of these images, even the current, are outright laughable. Since all of his appearances have so far only been commentary, it's nearly impossible to get a picture that doesn't show him talking or with a face that makes him look like something other than what he is. That said, the current has the benefit of looking more "natural"; yes, he's got a grin, but not one that is excessive and it more or less indicates he is enjoying the game (which is true and therefore informational) instead of showing him off as a goofy guy, an untrue and irrelevant detail. Ozai Spirte The Final BattleSparks From HadesAzula sprite23 22:45, December 5, 2012 (UTC)

I added another proposal which is likely the most neutral he'll ever appear, plus it doesn't have the shadows like the current image (discounting under his eyebrows). Katara End Sprite Ruen Katara Sprite Season 3 16:05, December 6, 2012 (UTC)

7 could work for me. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 16:31, December 6, 2012 (UTC)
It has it's flaws but it will suffice. Srijay KTechFilmer 16:34, December 6, 2012 (UTC)
#7 looks pretty good. I support. —Random Ranaun (Talk to me!) 21:05, December 6, 2012 (UTC)
Actually, this one is the best of them all. Support. I declare Shenanigans! (talk) 21:10, December 6, 2012 (UTC)
I support. It's better than the other proposals.

TheBigO Fan Bolin sprite Be the leaf 21:40, December 6, 2012 (UTC)

Number 7 really fine for me. Per all. Acer Evan Seek anything about fanon! Jet sprite 09:17, December 7, 2012 (UTC)

Bamboo Edit

12-6-2012 Edit

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This discussion is closed. The result of this discussion was:
Proposal 2 will be the new infobox image.
Please do not edit this discussion.

The current image is basically just a picture of Aang and Zuko, with no real focus on the bamboo itself. The proposals have the plant as the main subject of the image and more clearly display how it appears in a natural environment. Ozai Spirte The Final BattleSparks From HadesAzula sprite23 22:18, December 6, 2012 (UTC)

Approved for discussion.
I like #2. It's a clear image of the plant and aesthetically more appealing than #1, which kind of looks like an image taken from a comic for same reason. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 22:29, December 6, 2012 (UTC)
On board with #2 as well. I think it's a perfect natural display of the plant and it surrounding areas. PSUAvatar14 Want to have a word? Katarasprite1Ty Lee KW 22:38, December 6, 2012 (UTC)
Per above, proposal 2# DyingFlameTsui (wallcontribs) 22:56, December 6, 2012 (UTC)
I agree with number 2 as well ChakraJoo Dee SpriteDai Li Sprite Sandwich 01:34, December 7, 2012 (UTC)
Number 2 fine for me. Better coloring and depicts real-bamboo. Just my thoughts. Acer Evan Seek anything about fanon! Jet sprite 09:17, December 7, 2012 (UTC)

No. 1. I feel that No. 2 blends in too much with the background. Srijay KTechFilmer 13:27, December 7, 2012 (UTC)

While I agree with Godsrule that the proposed image 2 does seem to blend with the background a bit (that being because the focus is Sokka and Piandao, not the bamboo itself), the coloring of the first proposal isn't a great representation of the color of bamboo, given the "mystical" tone for the scene (that of people returning from the Spirit World). Katara End Sprite Ruen Katara Sprite Season 3 13:54, December 7, 2012 (UTC)
Yeah; but I feel like the background is the bamboo; so.... Still number 2. Acer Evan Seek anything about fanon! Jet sprite 13:59, December 7, 2012 (UTC)
Totally agreed, number 2 I declare Shenanigans! (talk) 23:44, December 7, 2012 (UTC)

Melinda Clarke Edit

12-7-2012 Edit

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This discussion is closed. The result of this discussion was:
Proposed image will be the new image used.
Please do not edit this discussion.

In the current image the lady has way too much make up and look totally freaky and weird. In the proposals the lady looks neater and natural. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Korra's iPhone (wallcontribs) This note was added on 16:59, December 7, 2012 (UTC).

Approved for discussion, though I removed the second option you had since it was way too close up to be suitable for an infobox image.
I support the change, as the image is aesthetically more pleasing and shed doesn't look so shiny in her face. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 16:58, December 7, 2012 (UTC)
Per above Srijay KTechFilmer 16:59, December 7, 2012 (UTC)
Support. It has more beautiful image of her, instead of the shiny-shed as LL stated. Per everyone who supported. Acer Evan Seek anything about fanon! Jet sprite 17:05, December 7, 2012 (UTC)
Support: the proposed is a more professional shot of her, is an upgrade in quality, and shows her in a less "awkward" position. ChakraJoo Dee SpriteDai Li Sprite Sandwich 01:15, December 8, 2012 (UTC)

Andrew Caldwell Edit

12-7-2012 Edit

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This discussion is closed. The result of this discussion was:
Proposal will be the new infobox image.
Please do not edit this discussion.

The current image of Andrew Caldwell looks informal and is slightly blurry with Andrew Caldwell with a slightly cocky expression. The proposed image is a more professional looking photo of Andrew Caldwell, with better quality. ChakraJoo Dee SpriteDai Li Sprite Sandwich 02:34, December 7, 2012 (UTC)

Approved for discussion. PSUAvatar14 Want to have a word? Katarasprite1Ty Lee KW 02:38, December 7, 2012 (UTC)
Agreed. The current image has an awkward-position of Andrew and the proposed one has better coloring, proportion, and position. Acer Evan Seek anything about fanon! Jet sprite 09:17, December 7, 2012 (UTC)

The Chase Edit

12-9-2012 Edit

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File:Mai sliding over the ground.png|Proposed Replacement #4
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This discussion is closed. The result of this discussion was:
Image will not be changed.
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In the current pic its looks like they are not chasing someone instead it looks like Azula is examining the grass to see if it is good for a picnic. In the proposed replacements it does look like someone is chasing someone or they have found them —Preceding unsigned comment added by Korra's iPhone (wallcontribs) 09:56, December 9, 2012 (UTC)

Approved for discussion.
I prefer the current. Azula is tracking down Aang and the others by following Appa's trail. That's exactly the chase. The proposed images are about the ensuing confrontation more than anything else. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 16:56, December 9, 2012 (UTC)
The current, per Lady Lostris. Most of the episode is about Azula and co. tracking the Gaang via Appa's fur, something the current picture shows. Katara End Sprite Ruen Katara Sprite Season 3 16:59, December 9, 2012 (UTC)
Current, it's the only one that accurately represents the title. Ozai Spirte The Final BattleSparks From HadesAzula sprite23 17:05, December 9, 2012 (UTC)
Current, per Lady. --AvatarRokus Ghost (Message meRead my fanon) Aang Cosmic Toph-DoBS-2 18:04, December 9, 2012 (UTC)

I also vote for the current. Per Lady, nothing epitomizes this chase better than Azula's tracking. PSUAvatar14 Want to have a word? Katarasprite1Ty Lee KW 18:17, December 9, 2012 (UTC)

Chin Village Edit

12-12-2012 Edit

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This discussion is closed. The result of this discussion was:
Proposed will be the new infobox image.
Please do not edit this discussion.

This is more about "putting an option out there", than actually having a preference for the proposed image. Both convey the outline of the village and both have their advantages and disadvantages. The current is a nice rather close, but not too close shot of the city. It's downside is that it is a shot during the festival, thus there are giant effigies of the Avatars and a crowd present as well. The proposed on the other hand, is a further off shot -perhaps too far off for some. However, it does give a nice overview of the city, being that it is completely round and has a wall etc, and it also includes the shrine that was build in Chin's honor. It better conveys the general overview of the village and its surroundings, but by doing so, it might be too far off, so I'm a bit in dubio about the two, hence me just "putting the option out there". Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 12:53, December 12, 2012 (UTC)

Approved for discussion - and I do like the proposal; it gives a more neutral and larger view of the village without some of that Avatar Day hullabaloo going on. PSUAvatar14 Want to have a word? Katarasprite1Ty Lee KW 16:00, December 12, 2012 (UTC)
I like the current. The proposal is positioned much too far away from the village and omits many closer details. For most profile pictures on settlement articles, we tend to avoid using excessively distant shots. Ozai Spirte The Final BattleSparks From HadesAzula sprite23 19:33, December 12, 2012 (UTC)
That's not really true: most of the times there just aren't any overall shots available. It has more to do with that than a conscious choice to avoid it. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 20:03, December 12, 2012 (UTC)
I suppose so, though when there are more overall shots availible we still don't use them. The problem is that since details are lost, it becomes difficult to distinguish said settlements from any other settlement, as most ATLA villages look alike if not identical. A good example might be the Fire Days Festival town, where we use a very zoomed-in view even though more overall ones exist. Including details helps readers distinguish different locations, and here the current image for Chin Village does that well by showing its distinctive festival. Ozai Spirte The Final BattleSparks From HadesAzula sprite23 20:17, December 12, 2012 (UTC)

No need to explain it to me, I'm of the same mindset as mentioned above. I just said that to alert others that there is no convention of not using said further off shots, before people would object just based on that. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 20:27, December 12, 2012 (UTC)

I rather like the current. It gives us a detailed image with its unique and its major identification, the Avatar statues. The proposed image is a bit too far away from the city-shot, and also from the first sight, we can't identify it as Chin Vilalge. However, the current image's lack is the lost of Chin's footprint. Anyway, replying KataraFanBoy's support, I just think we don't see Chin Village anymore after the Avatar Day. Acer Evan Seek anything about fanon! Jet sprite 05:27, December 13, 2012 (UTC)
I agree with the proposal. As PSU said it is much more neutral and IMO the colors are more pleasing. Godsrule - Talk to me! 07:23, December 13, 2012 (UTC)
The proposal is a nice shot, however SparksFromHades makes a valid point about the lack of detail in comparison. I'd still be inclined to go with the proposal, as it shows the entire village (including the all too important cliff edge), something I'd think would be best for a profile image. Ideally the current could go as a in-text image on the page, but I doubt it's possible with the other two, and would probably be a bit pointless. Katara End Sprite Ruen Katara Sprite Season 3 16:10, December 13, 2012 (UTC)

Mai Edit

12-13-2012 Edit

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Nothing wrong with the current image, though perhaps it isn't as much up to date anymore. We were introduced to Mai as she is show in that image: a stern, bored girl. However, over the course of the show, she evolved to a more mellow girl, who, although still on her own, also showed to care about people, and the proposed one better highlights that side of here. By having her cross-armed resting against the wall, the image still displays her chill side, but the more mild expression tells that she isn't just a cold robot. So all in all, I feel like the proposed is a better representation of her entire character. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 19:48, December 13, 2012 (UTC)

Approved for discussion. KettleMeetPotwall 22:23, December 13, 2012 (UTC)
Support, it's a better representation of how we know her now and it's an update. ChakraJoo Dee SpriteDai Li Sprite Sandwich 22:28, December 13, 2012 (UTC)
I'm gonna have to say I prefer the current. It may be a slightly better representation of her character, but the yellowish tinge and the somewhat awkward expression on her face are not aesthetically pleasing. The quality of the current outweighs the small improvement in terms of character of the proposal. HAMMEROFTHOR 23:22, December 13, 2012 (UTC)
I have nothing against the current, but I don't really see the awkward expression you see in the proposed, especially not compared with the pissed of angry scowl she has as an expression in the current one. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 23:27, December 13, 2012 (UTC)
Hm. I see your point about the current, but I'm afraid I'm going to have to oppose, like HoT because of the yellowish tint, and overall I like the way that the current captures Mai, quality, angle and lighting-wise. I think that the proposed isn't as Mai-centered as the current, and I personally think that the proposed image of Mai doesn't make her seem much less gloomy or pissed off than the current. A known sign of body-language is crossed arms is not usually a good sign, and the angle it gets her face at isn't very flattering, IMO. Like HoT said, the small improvement in capturing her character isn't worth losing the quality of the current. Fire Pabu Sprite Ferret 23:40, December 13, 2012 (UTC)

(edit conflict) I don't really know what it is, there's just something about her expression that feels awkward. Her expression in the current image is more obvious and discernible (that girl is pissed off) whereas the proposed image is less so. It's not a major thing, I just find it off putting, and enough to put me against when coupled with the colouring issue I mentioned before. HAMMEROFTHOR 23:44, December 13, 2012 (UTC)

I'm going to have to agree with ATFF and HoT - that coloring is kind of a turnoff and a bit visually distracting. PSUAvatar14 Want to have a word? Katarasprite1Ty Lee KW 00:19, December 14, 2012 (UTC)
Per above I have to oppose. G o d s r u l e - T a l k  t o  m e ! - 07:34, December 14, 2012 (UTC)

Tong Edit

12-13-2012 Edit

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Image 2 will be the new infobox image.
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There isn't really something wrong with the current image, but for some reason I just never liked that one, so I added two proposals to get rid of it ^^. The first one is just the typical front shot, but I'm more in favor of the second proposal, since it better portrays his somewhat arrogant posture and skeptical attitude of everything that did not come from his mouth. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 16:53, December 13, 2012 (UTC)

Approved for discussion. If in the case of looking at more of his leaning personality, then it does come down to a choice of between the current and PR#2. I could live with two, because it does give us a straight angle of his face and doesn't have that weird fold on his hat visible. PSUAvatar14 Want to have a word? Katarasprite1Ty Lee KW 17:27, December 13, 2012 (UTC)
A plus for the second image: it is not a crop like the first one, meaning that it is more detailed without having to enhance anything, which is better for the overall quality. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 17:35, December 13, 2012 (UTC)
Proposal two looks good. His head is closer and in a better position than the current. Ozai Spirte The Final BattleSparks From HadesAzula sprite23 22:37, December 13, 2012 (UTC)
Two for me as well. There's something weird going on with his eyes in the current… Fire Pabu Sprite Ferret 23:43, December 13, 2012 (UTC)
I actually support #1, in the other ones his expression is just weird. I preffer a neutral expresion. I declare Shenanigans! (talk) 16:33, December 14, 2012 (UTC)

Fang Edit

12-16-2012 Edit

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The proposed one is a (more or less) full body shot of good quality. The lighting is better than in the current and it shows off Fang's natural coloring better. The downside is, however, that Aang is standing before him and Roku is riding in his neck, but I don't feel like the two Avatars are that distracting as Fang still takes up the majority of the image and is the brightest and thus the natural focus point. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 18:27, December 16, 2012 (UTC)

Approved for discussion. Hmmm...all right, I can see the benefits the proposed brings - it clears away some of that cluttery smoke in the background of the current. Seeing Aang (I honestly didn't know Roku was there until I saw you note it lol) there is kind of distracting, but it doesn't overall hurt the effectiveness of this image. I vote for the proposed. PSUAvatar14 Want to have a word? Katarasprite1Ty Lee KW 18:51, December 16, 2012 (UTC)
The proposal is good. The contrast in color between the background and Fang makes him easier to see, and Aang and Roku aren't all that noticeable. Ozai Spirte The Final BattleSparks From HadesAzula sprite23 01:15, December 17, 2012 (UTC)
Yeah, I'd agree, per above. It'd also be more in line with pages such as Appa and Naga, which also show the entire body (as opposed to a headshot, like those of people). Katara End Sprite Ruen Katara Sprite Season 3 01:35, December 17, 2012 (UTC)
I don't feel the clouds or the Avatars are distracting, the image shows better his body and gives a perspective between his size and the humans body. So I must support. I declare Shenanigans! (talk) 22:44, December 18, 2012 (UTC)

Dante Basco Edit

12-18-2012 Edit

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The current image is fine, except the proposed image is just a more professional and high quality picture of Dante Basco. ChakraJoo Dee SpriteDai Li Sprite Sandwich 05:35, December 18, 2012 (UTC)

Approved for discussion. I don't agree; the proposed appears to have him a somewhat opened, less formal jean jacket with a messy hairdo. The current, while potentially of less image quality, is definitely a more professional look than Basco, so I vote to stick with it for now. PSUAvatar14 Want to have a word? Katarasprite1Ty Lee KW 05:48, December 18, 2012 (UTC)
I changed the ratio and quality, I hope that helps. Outside from that, the proposed is up to date and also shows Dante's hairstyle better, currently he is not bald, so I support the proposal. Acer Evan Seek anything about fanon! Jet sprite 08:50, December 18, 2012 (UTC)
After seeing what Acer has to say I support. G o d s r u l e - T a l k  t o  m e ! 09:29, December 18, 2012 (UTC)
I'd have to agree with KFB, the current looks more formal and professional. Ozai Spirte The Final BattleSparks From HadesAzula sprite23 22:49, December 18, 2012 (UTC)

I agree with KFB in the proposed one he looks like a rockstar ♫♪--Korra's iPhone Korra-chao2 I support Zutara!! 14:48, December 20, 2012 (UTC)

Sandbender Tribes Edit

12-25-2012 Edit

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As a representation for the entire tribe, the current one is rather lacking. You'd go like, "omg, the tribe is a head! Oooh, there are the other people *giggles*".
So, moving away from that, there are some options: #1 portrays the most people of the tribe and as such is the most complete (as a nice bonus, all the different outfits are shown). The second and third are just two different crops of the first proposal, and #4 is another panshot of some sandbenders, but the I prefer the first over this one (I just threw it in to be more complete). Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 16:43, December 25, 2012 (UTC)

Approved for discussion - I agree with #1 per the reasoning above. PSUAvatar14 Want to have a word? Katarasprite1Ty Lee KW 16:57, December 25, 2012 (UTC)
I like two or three because they show several sandbenders, and they are less blurry than one, and have better lighting than four. Fire Pabu Sprite Ferret 19:45, December 25, 2012 (UTC)
Just a side note: it is impossible that 2 and 3 are less blurry than 1 as they are crops of said image that have not been altered after being cropped. They are of exactly the same sharpness. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 20:14, December 25, 2012 (UTC)
Hm, now that I click on all of the images I do see that… so I guess I'll change my vote to one, then. Fire Pabu Sprite Ferret 20:52, December 25, 2012 (UTC)
Number 1 looks like blurry, but after see the full view it is not. I like the wide shot of the sandbenders tribe, it depicts all of the tribe. Less blurry than #4, I like proposal 1 Per above. Acer Evan Seek anything about fanon! Santa Aang Sprite 04:11, December 26, 2012 (UTC)
I agree with 1# as well. DyingFlameTsui (wallcontribs) 19:15, December 26, 2012 (UTC)

Sha-Mo Edit

12-25-2012 Edit

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The current image is a rather too closeup of the Sandbender Tribe leader. The image actually doesn't show much beside a crop of his face. The proposed certainly isn't perfect either, as it is perhaps too far away to clearly show the leader. However, by having Sha-Mo standing in the center, he's the natural focus point of the image and the other sandbenders around him give him a sort of natural authority in the image. But as mentioned, its biggest downside is that it's very far off -though it is a possibility to take into consideration I guess. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 16:43, December 25, 2012 (UTC)

Approved for discussion and agreed - though a little further out, I think it's better to at least have a fuller view than only seeing half his face. PSUAvatar14 Want to have a word? Katarasprite1Ty Lee KW 16:57, December 25, 2012 (UTC)
I prefer the current, I agree with the issues with the current, but in the proposed his face is not visible almost at all, and although it does show his authority I think it is better to have a clear view of his face, so we can easily identify who he is, rather than his full body. Fire Pabu Sprite Ferret 19:45, December 25, 2012 (UTC)
I prefer the current image as well. While having only a side-view of Sha Mo's face, it does provide more detail and focus on Sha-Mo than the proposed. The proposed is just rather "busy", in my opinion; there's no real focus on the main subject, merely a collection of sandbenders. The Ultimate Waterbender 04:10, December 26, 2012 (UTC)
(Edit Conflict) Though it shows the full body of Sha-Mo wider, people can easily notice Sha-Mo in the current image. From the proposal, per ATFF people can't identify Sha-Mo easily so people need to see another image of him. Acer Evan Seek anything about fanon! Santa Aang Sprite 04:11, December 26, 2012 (UTC)

Buzzard wasp Edit

12-25-2012 Edit

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The proposed image shows off the animal as a whole better as opposed to the frontal view of the current. The background is also more neutral than the gaping, distracting holes of the hive. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 13:36, December 25, 2012 (UTC)

Approved for discussion. I'll take the buzzard wasps in the center square, Peter, :p I mean, the centered shot of the wasps is a better focus on the animal as a whole. PSUAvatar14 Want to have a word? Katarasprite1Ty Lee KW 16:57, December 25, 2012 (UTC)

And now we have a frontal, above, and side view. Take your pick. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 19:34, December 25, 2012 (UTC)

I like number one, because I feel it's the best view of the entire animal, without the somewhat distracting background that 2 has. Fire Pabu Sprite Ferret 19:45, December 25, 2012 (UTC)
I'm fine with any of the proposals, but two seems to be the best shot of the entire animal. The wings in one occupy too much of the image for my liking, and detract from the rest of the wasp which seems to get lost behind it. Side views are ideal, and also two has slightly better lighting. Ozai Spirte The Final BattleSparks From HadesAzula sprite23 21:52, December 25, 2012 (UTC)
Hmmm, the addition of the #2 really mixes things up. Now looking at it, I see where Sparks is getting at with the lighting, and the view isn't too off-center to be an issue. I'll go with 2 as well. PSUAvatar14 Want to have a word? Katarasprite1Ty Lee KW 22:53, December 25, 2012 (UTC)
Any of the proposal is available for me, but number 2 seems the best. Number 2 has clearer shot and lighting, so people can identify the animal easily. Per Sparks. Acer Evan Seek anything about fanon! Santa Aang Sprite 04:11, December 26, 2012 (UTC)

Slang in the World of Avatar Edit

12-25-2012 Edit

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In the current image you can hardly see what's going due to Aang being so far off and the focus point of the image are the turned backs of people. In the proposed image, you can clearly see a happy Aang and the somewhat surprised expression of a Fire Nation citizen -which is the usual response to Aang using certain slang words. It also better fits the general description of the page, as many people often look weird when someone uses slang. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 09:12, December 25, 2012 (UTC)

Approved for discussion and agreed per reasoning above. It's clearer that Aang is using slang and it's also a more closeup view on the action. PSUAvatar14 Want to have a word? Katarasprite1Ty Lee KW 16:57, December 25, 2012 (UTC)
Agreed per above. Fire Pabu Sprite Ferret 19:45, December 25, 2012 (UTC)
Agreed. Acer Evan Seek anything about fanon! Santa Aang Sprite 04:11, December 26, 2012 (UTC)

Royal armor Edit

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12-27-2012 Edit

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The royal armor is more than just a breast plate as it is depicted right now. The color also seems to be off in the current image's lighting. The proposed shows more of the entire outfit (such as the belt and waist protectors), has better coloring, and shows Azula in royal posture with the Fire Nation insignia behind here, adding more to the feel of it being a royal armor. As for the other options, #2 has the bonus of showing the most of the entire armor in a frontal shot, and #3 show more of the armor than the current while also being more or less up close and frontal. However, the biggest downsides of the proposed images are that they also put some focus on Azula. However, I don't necessarily see that as a bad thing -she was after all the one who most prominently wore it during the entirety of the series. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 09:18, December 27, 2012 (UTC)

Approved for discussion. I'm in favor of proposal #2, as it shows almost the entirety of the armor and in good light, too. The Ultimate Waterbender 17:20, December 27, 2012 (UTC)
I'll go with two as well. The background isn't as distracting as in the other proposals. Ozai Spirte The Final BattleSparks From HadesAzula sprite23 18:25, December 27, 2012 (UTC)
Hard to choose between one and two, because one has the Fire Nation insignia and the Fire Nation colors etc. While two shows more of the whole armor. But two is probably better since we don't have to have Fire Nation stuff. ChakraJoo Dee SpriteDai Li Sprite Sandwich 19:51, December 27, 2012 (UTC)

A few more shots. #4 is totally new and #5 is a bit more close up. Since everyone like #2 a lot I think #5 will work. Being more close up it puts more emphasis on the armor. Srijay KTechFilmer 15:57, December 28, 2012 (UTC)

4 and 5 are exactly the reason why I wanted to change the image in the first place. The goal is not to show off Azula in the armor, the goal is to show off as much as the armor as possible -which often means showing Azula per default. Thus proposal 4 lies in the line of the current proposal, but then the current is better as it is less distracting from the armor itself and proposal 5 lies in line of the second proposal but completely misses the point by cropping part of the armor off. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 16:09, December 28, 2012 (UTC)
How does 5 crop part of it off? I understand 4 is bad but 5 is the smae thing just a teensy weensy but closer. Srijay KTechFilmer 16:12, December 28, 2012 (UTC)
Cause 5 cuts off the boots and part of the waist protectors (or whatever the skirt is named). The only thing that image does is put more focus on Azula, which is not the goal of the image. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 16:33, December 28, 2012 (UTC)
So do 1, 3, and 4 in regards to the boots. And the skirt thingie is not part of the armor. You have to remember Zuko wore it to and did not wear those things. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Godsrule (wallcontribs) This note was added on 17:15, December 28, 2012 (UTC).

Indeed, 1, 3, and 4 do not show the boots. So why do you think people are supporting 2 so much when it comes to showing off the entire armor? And you're wrong about the waist protector, it is very much a part of the armor. I do remember Zuko wearing the armor, but I saw him like this: in full body armor with the waist protectors. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 17:11, December 28, 2012 (UTC)

Hmm you have a point, could the Zuko image you linked be used with a bit of cropping. If made portrait vs. landscape it could work the best. Srijay KTechFilmer 17:14, December 28, 2012 (UTC)
No, it couldn't as he is in the process of removing the armor, so he is never shown to actually wear the entire thing, or his arms are one way or another awkwardly in the way. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 17:16, December 28, 2012 (UTC)
Per above, I'm still for number two. In four Azula has a very awkward facial expression, which is a tad distracting, and in five there's no reason why we need to crop the boot and waist protector out of the image. Ozai Spirte The Final BattleSparks From HadesAzula sprite23 02:04, December 29, 2012 (UTC)

Sun Warriors Edit

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12-28-2012 Edit

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The current image is of a improper ration. The proposed is of a proper ratio. WHile it is just a crop of the original the proposal is more effective than the original Srijay KTechFilmer 16:45, December 28, 2012 (UTC)

Approved for discussion. The Ultimate Waterbender 16:51, December 28, 2012 (UTC)
I support the change, though not because the current image is of improper ratio -as that cannot be as there is no set ratio for panshot. However, I do support it cause the current image does appear very small and the extra bonus of showing some more Sun Warriors in not worth losing overall visibility of the tribe. The warriors that are shown are more than enough to give a good vibe of how the tribe looks like. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 16:57, December 28, 2012 (UTC)
Support. From the infobox, we only can see a little details from the current. Acer Evan Seek anything about fanon! Santa Aang Sprite 17:00, December 28, 2012 (UTC)

Ikki Edit

12-29-2012 Edit

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Alright, the current has been bothering me for a while. It's not a very nice looking picture of Ikki-- and while it does capture her personality, I feel like it's too much of a head shot only, plus the lighting is not excellent. Now the proposals aren't great by a long shot-- but they do fix the only a head-shot factor, and they both show Ikki's personality fairy well. I tried to make it so they also fit the ratio, which is good too. However they are somewhat low-quality (if anybody could fix that, it's be much appreciated), and Ikki's hands are in odd positions. Personally me, I'm leaning toward 1 because it shows Ikki's talkative side and her hyperactive-ness. Fire Pabu Sprite Ferret 02:01, December 29, 2012 (UTC)

Approved for discussion. The Ultimate Waterbender 04:38, December 29, 2012 (UTC)

Added a crop of proposal one that removes some of the glare and excess background view, for a bit more focus on Ikki. Ozai Spirte The Final BattleSparks From HadesAzula sprite23 16:38, December 29, 2012 (UTC)

:I still kind of prefer 1, the excess was not too distracting from the image, and it fits the original ratio. Though, the crop image isn't bad either. I just tend to only prefer crops if there is something in particular that needs to be cropped out. Fire Pabu Sprite Ferret 20:06, December 29, 2012 (UTC)

I think the original is the best but if I had too choose I would choose 3. 3 also fits the ratio and is much better IMO. Srijay KTechFilmer 20:13, December 29, 2012 (UTC)
Proposal three is 333 by 250 pixels, which is the standard ratio used for character profile images, so there is nothing wrong with that. And I do feel the crop was necessary because the glare in 1 was just too distracting. I'm sort of divided between the current and three; while three does show more of Ikki than just her head, it's still got part of that glare in the corner. Ozai Spirte The Final BattleSparks From HadesAzula sprite23 20:14, December 29, 2012 (UTC)
Apologies, I got a bit confused by something in the image policy… Anyways, I get your point. I'll go with 3. Fire Pabu Sprite Ferret 20:58, December 29, 2012 (UTC)

And now I think we have about every suitable Ikki image there is to find to have every possible option. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 21:34, December 29, 2012 (UTC)

Whoa holy… lot of images. Alright. I'll give support to three six and eight. They all depict Ikki looking somewhat energetic with wide smiles on her face, as well as an energetic-looking pose. Fire Pabu Sprite Ferret 22:11, December 29, 2012 (UTC)
Alright, we've got a gigantic batch to choose from now, but I don't quite think any of the newest proposals are suitable. I'm going to side with three for now. Four is probably one of the better ones, but it fails to show Ikki's energetic nature and instead gives us a really weird, unidentifiable expression. In five and six she may as well have no arms..... Seven through ten doesn't show Ikki's facing foward, and she has an awkward face in both eleven and twelve. Ozai Spirte The Final BattleSparks From HadesAzula sprite23 22:34, December 29, 2012 (UTC)
I really don't care about this change, so I'm not defending anything here. I just like to point out, however, that excluding images solely on the basis of her not looking forward is a moot point as the images of Katara, Aang, Tenzin, Meelo, Bolin, and Korra (just to name a few) are also images depicting them not facing forward, and then personally I'd prefer to have a slight sidewards position like 8 over a more frontal position with awkwardly floating arms like 3. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 22:44, December 29, 2012 (UTC)
Hmm...well now that you point that out number eight doesn't look too bad. I'd still go for three though, it does have a slightly tilted angle, but it's not too angled. Eight might be a bit too angled, it looks like she's staring at the source of that light in the corner. But yeah, there's also the arms in three. Ozai Spirte The Final BattleSparks From HadesAzula sprite23 23:04, December 29, 2012 (UTC)

I am sorry but I like the current image as it shows the face of Ikki and not her in weird positions like the proposals.--Korra's iPhone Korra-chao2 I support Zutara!! 15:09, December 30, 2012 (UTC)

Wow. That's a lot of proposals, anyway I think that number 3 or number 7 are suitable. She's smiling in both of them, showing her energetic personality. Though, I'm leaning more towards proposal seven, in three she's slightly tilted down and uneven. In seven she's even but she's not facing forward, though you can still see her expression. For example, in Aang's image he is slightly angled and is not looking forward, but you can still see his happy expression. Chilary Spir-aang-c3 (1) wall 15:58, December 30, 2012 (UTC)
I support proposal #8 - it represents Ikki's cheery, light-hearted personality while also portraying her in a more natural pose than in a few of the other proposals. Plus, the image itself is clear, focused and of good lighting. The Ultimate Waterbender 16:22, December 30, 2012 (UTC)

I feel the change is unnecessary. The current is fine: a good shot showing all of her face and her personality. It represents her well. I don't get why everyone is saying three is good. The hands are extremely awkward for me: she looks like she's doing some weird contemporary dance (the kind that modern pop artists do), she has a slightly hunched position, and don't forget the weird glare on the top left. I actually kind of like the fourth on: good lighting, but she looks like she is in mid stride. The two after don't capture her personality well, in my opinion, she looks like she doesn't have arms, and the background isn't very good either. 8 could possibly work, but she looks like she's some obsessed Juliet or something about to tell her love story about some boy she met at the mall that she can never let go of. The current is better. And lastly, 11 and 12 look like she's some parachute or balloon. In conclusion, I prefer the current and don't think the change is needed. ChakraJoo Dee SpriteDai Li Sprite Sandwich 02:35, December 31, 2012 (UTC)

I would stay with the current one instead because it way better. The others ones, well they are to far away from her face. I would vote for a new one if someone can find a nice one close to her face and not too close like the current one. Hopemon (wallcontribs) 05:52, January 1, 2013 (UTC)


As per Hopemon's remark: a more upclose but not too close to cut off part of her face option with 13. (I know Chakra said something about the background not being very good, but... they're trees and off all the backgrounds, they're one the blend in the most -precisely what a background should do, so I don't really see what would be wrong with that ^^"). Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 09:48, January 1, 2013 (UTC)

I can deal with 13 ^_^ It's good, you don't see the "missing arms" part and she has a nice expression. I just mean that the background seemed extremely...for lack of better word, shabby. But that's not a big problem. Yep, I support 13. ChakraJoo Dee SpriteDai Li Sprite Sandwich 01:08, January 2, 2013 (UTC)
I actually really like the look of thirteen, I support. Fire Pabu Sprite Ferret 21:02, January 2, 2013 (UTC)

Thirteen is better then those other ones. I would pick this if no one else can find a or make it a little closer. Also I am sure in the next season we'll have a better one maybe. Hopemon (wallcontribs) 05:09, January 3, 2013 (UTC)

I like number 8, it is in very good angle, very good coloring, though I believe Book 2 will provide a lot of Ikki's image in better shot. I like Hopemon's reasons, but in number 13, it's extremely weird for me if Ikki's skin is too brightly white. Though it's shadowed, in number 8 Ikki is not too white, not too dark, but fine for me, so still in #8. Acer Evan Seek anything about fanon! Jet sprite 13:55, January 3, 2013 (UTC)
Yes, but Acer, we're not looking for an image that depicts your ideal Ikki. We're looking for an image that depicts Ikki as she is and whether we like it or not, Ikki has a pale skin. Personally, I find it wrong to support an image at night just because she has a darker skin tone due to the shadows -also read, not her real skin tone. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 14:36, January 3, 2013 (UTC)
I know that, ^^" but her pale skin is a little bit too bright white, and the shot is too close-up. The saturation is not 100% correct, I see Ikki's hair is different from number 2+3 with 13. I've read an argument about Ikki's brown hair. I'm neutral on this, too much proposals, I can't choose (I'm about number 3, or 8) Acer Evan Seek anything about fanon! Jet sprite 14:54, January 3, 2013 (UTC)
She is always that white, that has nothing to do with the coloring. Every shot that has her in daylight depicts her that white. That's her character and that's what the image should depict.
And of course her hair looks different in 13 than in 2 and 3 as the latter 2 or night/evening shot as opposed to the daytime shot that 13 is. So I fail to see the point that you're trying to make here. And what about the argument that you read about her brown hair? She has brown hair in all the proposals as well as the entire duration of the series. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 15:00, January 3, 2013 (UTC)
Blame my computer if I was wrong; I noticed #13 is black. ^^" All of the image are fine, but number 3 and 8 depict Ikki's cheerful more) So now I'm neutral. Acer Evan Seek anything about fanon! Jet sprite 15:07, January 3, 2013 (UTC)

The only remotely black hair on Ikki is the current image. As for the cheerful expression, you do realize that it's the exact same expression only mirrored, right? Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 15:21, January 3, 2013 (UTC)

I do recall that I did say number eight looks like she's "some obsessed Juliet or something about to tell her love story about some boy she met at the mall that she can never let go of". I really don't feel like that's a good representation of the Ikki that we know. And her hands are in a weird position for me. I just can't see that picture in the profile box for Ikki, it just "erks" me out. She has a better expression in thirteen, she doesn't blend with the background, and it is more centered on her face. I can't find any arguments against it (except that the background is grey, but that's not a problem besides artistic viewing, which isn't the point of profile images). The lighting is, as Lady Lostris pointed out, fine on thirteen. She has pale complexion as did the Air Nomads. ChakraJoo Dee SpriteDai Li Sprite Sandwich 21:02, January 3, 2013 (UTC)
I feel that in 13 the face is too pale. I still vote for the current but if I had to choose I would say 3. Srijay KTechFilmer --21:07, January 3, 2013 (UTC)
I'm sorry, but if you feel that she is too pale, take it up with Bryke, as the girl was made pale by them. This is the original image. She is just a pale person and that is what we have to deal with it, whether we like it or not. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 21:14, January 3, 2013 (UTC)
Oh gosh, 3 is worse. I'd pick 8 over 3. The hands are extremely awkward for me, she's hunched, and did I mention she looks like she's doing one of those "dance moves" that appeal to young audiences these days? There's also a glare in the corner. Artistically speaking, her face isn't the center of the picture for me. If I look at it, I don't see just Ikki, I see her hands and the background. In 13, atleast you can focus all your attention on Ikki because of the grey background. ChakraJoo Dee SpriteDai Li Sprite Sandwich 00:13, January 4, 2013 (UTC)
I'll go with 13. It puts clear focus on Ikki without being too close to her face, and the smile shows her bright and joyful personality while not looking too goofy. Ozai Spirte The Final BattleSparks From HadesAzula sprite23 01:18, January 4, 2013 (UTC)

And now I have 14. A bit of a change in the highlights and shadws the image is much more suitable now as the face is not as pale. G o d s r u l e - T a l k  t o  m e ! 02:35, January 4, 2013 (UTC)

You made her face a color it doesn't have and it went at the cost of the overall image quality as it looks very pixilated, especially around the left side (our left) her hair, her right jaw, and the bushes in the background. That tends to happen when you blow the colors our of proportion. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 06:43, January 4, 2013 (UTC)
I am still for proposal 13, though I don't see why the pale skin is such a big issue. Ozai Spirte The Final BattleSparks From HadesAzula sprite23 00:04, January 5, 2013 (UTC)
Agreed, I don't see the issue with the paleness. That's how she is. ChakraJoo Dee SpriteDai Li Sprite Sandwich 00:13, January 5, 2013 (UTC)

Wan Shi Tong's Library Edit

This discussion is closed. The result of this discussion was:
Proposed #6 will be the new infobox image.
Please do not edit this discussion.

12-29-2012 Edit

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File:Library interior.png|Current image
File:Wan Shi Tong's Library.png|Proposed replacement #1
File:Inside Wan Shi Tong's Library.png|Proposed replacement #2
File:Wan Shi Tong's Library down view.png|Proposed replacement #3
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File:Book shelves.png|Proposed replacement #4
File:Library architecture.png|Proposed replacement #5
File:Wan Shi Tong's books.png|Proposed replacement #6
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The current image ultimately fails to show the full magnitude and grandeur of the library, though that could never be done with such a limited view. The proposals have a much broader scope, and also take away the distracting characters in the current. Number one might be ideal since it encompasses more of the library than the other images, but I didn't like that yellow glare in the center, so I threw in a few more options (although they have a slightly more limited view). Ozai Spirte The Final BattleSparks From HadesAzula sprite23 03:16, December 29, 2012 (UTC)

Approved for discussion. I'm leaning towards proposal #1; while the glare and the fact that Team Avatar is seen descending into the library are not ideal, the image does provide a wide, spacious view of the library. The Ultimate Waterbender 04:37, December 29, 2012 (UTC)
  1. 1, from the proposed images, #1 has a better lighting and wider than others. Acer Evan Seek anything about fanon! Santa Aang Sprite 08:59, December 29, 2012 (UTC)
I see why it needs to be changed because of the distracting characters and the lack of the actual library, but proposal number one still has the characters, and the fact that it's in a "crucial" scenen when they're trying to escape distracts me, personally. But it does have a good view/ I thought that proposal number three was good too, because it shows a lot of the library. So I'm tied between one and three.ChakraJoo Dee SpriteDai Li Sprite Sandwich 02:43, December 31, 2012 (UTC)

Yes, I'm late with this and I'm resetting the entire counter, sorry ^^". Anyway, I added 2 more proposals, and I personally prefer 6 to be the new image. It depicts book, which is always nice when your subject is a library, but by doing so, it also shows the vastness and the diversity of the library collection. Perhaps 4 could have the same effect as the shelves are immensely high, and with having Team Avatar there in the background, it only enhances that point, as they serve as a point of reference to show how large the library really is seeing that they are very tiny compared the to shelves.

My issue with proposal 1 is a bit that it could be any building and the fact that Team Avatar is descending in the middle the image is rather distracting. 2, 3, and even my newly uploaded 5 are perhaps better (or at least one of them as there isn't really much room on the page) to be in text images in a to be created "layout" section, depicting the architecture and the buildup of the building better. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 10:20, January 2, 2013 (UTC)

YES! I like the new proposals. I was thinking that there should be a view that actually shows the books since it is a library. I like four or six, mostly four though. (And as a side not :O Lady Lostris resetting the counter :O). ChakraJoo Dee SpriteDai Li Sprite Sandwich 21:46, January 2, 2013 (UTC)

The sixth is better as it showing the books like it is a library which it is. It doesn't have anyone in it as well to just show the books. I would pick the sixth photo. Hopemon (wallcontribs) 05:12, January 3, 2013 (UTC)

Woo hoo! Another proposals! I love all of them, but number 6 seems better. The shot shows part of the library, and it shows the library. It has a better shot of the book sections, the books with more details. Number 4 is good, but the statue and Team Avatar is rather distracting me. Number 5 only shows the mural of owls, I can't count on it as Library image (if you haven't watch the episode). Acer Evan Seek anything about fanon! Jet sprite 13:55, January 3, 2013 (UTC)
I actually hadn't noticed Team Avatar was there since you pointed it out...But I guess since you guys see it, that means it is distracting. So, six it is! ChakraJoo Dee SpriteDai Li Sprite Sandwich 21:04, January 3, 2013 (UTC)

Rejected proposals Edit

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Seaweed Edit

12-13-2012 Edit

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File:Swamp monster grabs a tank.png|Current image
File:Seaweed.png|Proposed replacement #1
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The current image is more focused on the monster than the seaweed itself. It would be better used as an in-text picture, the proposal more appropriate for a profile image. Ozai Spirte The Final BattleSparks From HadesAzula sprite23 23:48, December 13, 2012 (UTC) Avatar Wiki:Profile image change/bottom

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Aang Edit

12-28-2012 Edit

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File:Aang.png|Current image
File:Aang looking sullen.png|Proposed replacement #1
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The current one has its flaws. First off it is something Aang wore once, secondly aang blends in with the background. This solves both. HOwever it does have it's flwas. Aang's mouth is ope a little bit. Srijay KTechFilmer 16:19, December 28, 2012 (UTC) Avatar Wiki:Profile image change/bottom

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The Search Edit

12-29-2012 Edit

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The Search cover.png|Current image
20121229203038!The Search cover.png|Proposed replacement #1
</gallery>

I think the current image is best for a Part 1 page. The proposed image shows the trilogy better, plus it doesn't have "Part 1" written on it.

Harryhogwarts (wallcontribs) 22:42, December 29, 2012 (UTC) Harryhogwarts

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