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Changing the profile image (the image in the article's infobox, or the top image to the right of the introduction to a large majority of articles) is one of the most common proposed changes to articles on Avatar Wiki. Due to the regularity with which profile image changes are suggested, Avatar Wiki centralizes these changes on this page.

Procedures

  1. The proposer posts their suggestion(s) here. The proposer must support their suggestion(s) with a sensible reason for replacement ("it is an accurate representation of the character/plot").
  2. An administrator will announce the proposal on the community corner (this can be found below Hot Spots on Special:WikiActivity) if it is believed a grounded reason to initiate the image change process has been given in the original proposal.
  3. Discussion about the proposal can begin. If a discussion ensues and:
    1. no general consensus appears to develop between involved users, then a ballot will be placed forward;
    2. the people involved are all in agreement and after three days no one else voice their objections, then the image can be replaced without voting.
  4. The consensus of the proposal is carried out after three days, starting from the day the administrator approved the discussion.
    1. In case of proposals that regard the image of a newly created page, the proposal is carried out after 24 hours if every participant is in agreement. If at least one user disagrees, the discussion will carry on for at least three days.

Current proposals

Rejected proposals

This proposal has been rejected, because While it can be debatable that the proposed image is sharper, it doesn't meet the other criteria for a good infobox image, as it is drawn with her hair flowing and her mouth distractingly open. It also isn't the right infobox size, which requires a 250px width at the least.

Kiyi

I wanted the profile picture of Kiyi to change because the present picture is nice but I have a clearer picture. —Preceding unsigned comment added by AvatarAangRokuKorra (wallcontribs) 11:42, April 2, 2016 (UTC)

Approved proposals

Pythonaconda

Information Agree with the majority? Speed up consensus by not commenting. Discussion ends three days after the last post.
This discussion is closed. The result of this discussion was:
Proposal will be the new infobox image.
Please do not edit this discussion.

The proposed, although an art rendering by the artist, is a better representation of the pythonaconda and clearly shows its features, whereas the current image places more emphasis on Bolin and fails to highlight the creature effectively due to the lighting. I believe the current would be more appropriately placed in the behavior section. Waterbending emblem Water Spout 02:17, January 10, 2017 (UTC)

Approved for discussion.
I agree. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 10:48, January 10, 2017 (UTC)

Fire Nation airship

Information Agree with the majority? Speed up consensus by not commenting. Discussion ends three days after the last post.
This discussion is closed. The result of this discussion was:
Proposal will be the new infobox image.
Please do not edit this discussion.

I've always been bothered by the lighting and general appearance of the current image. The proposal is clearer, better in terms of lighting and highlighting the actual features of the vessel, and also represents a more updated version of the Fire Nation airship. Waterbending emblem Water Spout 04:13, October 26, 2016 (UTC)

Approved for discussion
Sure, why not? Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 11:02, October 26, 2016 (UTC)

Malina

This discussion is closed. The result of this discussion was:
Proposal will be the new infobox image.
Please do not edit this discussion.

The proposal is more frontal with less of an open mouth, cropped to one of the right ratios, and is better in quality. Since this is also a new page, I'd like to fast track this proposal into a 1 day discussion if possible. Waterbending emblem Water Spout 21:40, September 23, 2016 (UTC)

Approved for discussion.
I'm not entirely sold on the proposal. While the ratio of the current could indeed be better—as well as the quality, though it seems like that could be an easy fix with a more high quality reupload of the same issue—I don't really like the expression in the proposed. The current is indeed a happy shot, but the proposed strikes me as awkward. There is just something about the positioning of her eyes and the awkward open mouth that's off putting to me.
As such, I'm all for a higher quality picture of the current with, if possible, the more preferred standard ratios (though let's also be honest here, we often make exceptions to the ratio requirement on comic images, so that on itself shouldn't really be a reason to change). Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 21:58, September 23, 2016 (UTC)
I for one, find the current one to be awkward. I'm not really a fan of the text bubble being there, but I do like the facial expression better, so I am on-board for now. Hopefully we get the chance to place a better profile picture for her in the future with the upcoming comics though. Tono555 Talk Asami-chao4 23:09, September 23, 2016 (UTC)
I also support the proposal, for reasons already stated. SorcererSupreme21 Sokka Sprite Season 1Zuko-flord-c1 (Contribs | Editcount) 23:41, September 23, 2016 (UTC)

Siu-Leung Lee

Information Agree with the majority? Speed up consensus by not commenting. Discussion ends three days after the last post.
This discussion is closed. The result of this discussion was:
Proposal will be the new image.
Please do not edit this discussion.

The proposal is a closer, better lit and centralized shot. It also does not have the distracting microphone. Since this is a change of a new page, I'd like to invoke the one day rule. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 16:39, May 20, 2016 (UTC)

Approved for discussion, and I agree. Frui (ContribsEditcount) 21:22, May 24, 2016 (UTC)

Future Industries

This discussion is closed. The result of this discussion was:
Proposal will be the new infobox image.
Please do not edit this discussion.

While there is nothing really wrong with the current, I think it's worth having a discussion on this, as I would prefer to see it changed from one of the factories to the headquarters from where the entire company is run. There is a wider shot of the tower, but that has other buildings in the foreground, which I want to avoid. Aang Cosmic AvatarAang7 (My wall - My fanon) 18:32, May 24, 2016 (UTC)

Approved for discussion.
Considering that we also don't know whether or not that specific factory is even still in use, I support this change. Just for reference and to give the option, I also included the wider shot AA7 was talking about (though you'll have to actually click on the images, as the gallery function doesn't give you the full view of the image). Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 19:50, May 24, 2016 (UTC)

Yue Bay

This discussion is closed. The result of this discussion was:
Image will not be changed.
Please do not edit this discussion.

The proposal offers the exact same perspective as the current image, but provides far better quality, lighting, and there are no ships or shadows that detract from the image quality. Waterbending emblem Water Spout 03:48, May 16, 2016 (UTC)

Approved for discussion, and I agree. Frui (ContribsEditcount) 03:53, May 16, 2016 (UTC)
Support, per proposal. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 04:16, May 16, 2016 (UTC)
Agreed. SorcererSupreme21 Sokka Sprite Season 1Zuko-flord-c1 (Contribs | Editcount) 5:38, May 16, 2016 (UTC)
I oppose. This exact same proposal has been made before, that is to say, the reverse of it. Initially we had the proposed image as the current and per this discussion it was change to the current image. The reasons that compelled the change then still count now: It is the exact same image as the one we're using for United Republic of Nations and by using the shot at dawn, it has a more nature feeling to it and the lighting - as well as the ships - places an automatic highlight on the water instead of the city, which is exactly what we'd want for an infobox showcasing the water.
As a minor additional note, the quality of the current is a screenshot directly from the DVD and poses no issue at all for the infobox. Especially not since it portrays the city vaguer, which is a plus for the focus on the water. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 07:26, May 16, 2016 (UTC)
Hahaha I didn't think about that. I'd like to change my support because LL is right – the current, while maybe not as aesthetically pleasing (as in, we wouldn't use it as an image for the city or URN), the glare does a pretty good job of directing you to the water over the building. Frui (ContribsEditcount) 08:10, May 16, 2016 (UTC)
That is true. Like Fruipy, I thus change thine support per the reasoning of Lady Lostris of Lostrington. SorcererSupreme21 Sokka Sprite Season 1Zuko-flord-c1 (Contribs | Editcount) 6:12, May 18, 2016 (UTC)

Kori Morishita

This discussion is closed. The result of this discussion was:
Proposed will be the new infobox image.
Please do not edit this discussion.

Sharper image. Лев - черепаха (wallcontribs) 17:01, March 29, 2016 (UTC)

Approved for discussion. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 21:26, March 30, 2016 (UTC)
But in all serious, yes, the image is indeed of a better quality. I also like how it's not from a mugshot position, instead it's from a more dynamic angle SorcererSupreme21 Sokka Sprite Season 1Zuko-flord-c1 (Contribs | Editcount) 05:19, March 31, 2016 (UTC)
I also support the proposal. DyingFlameTsui (wallcontribs) 15:04, April 5, 2016 (UTC)

Reagan Lodge

This discussion is closed. The result of this discussion was:
Proposal 2 will be the new infobox image.
Please do not edit this discussion.

Hi there, I am the comic artist this article is about. Reason I’m requesting the photo change is because, frankly, the one up there is old and I look kind of starved and ghoulish in it (probably because it was taken when I was still in the Marines) compared to the present. I have uploaded 2 replacement options, first one is a recent photo, the other is a recent self-portrait. I understand that for wiki purposes real photos might be preferred, but if it is acceptable to use an artist’s own drawn representation, that would be my personal preference. Whichever image the community decides on, thanks for your time and for including me on the Avatar crew member roster!


PS: I have spoken with Lady Lostris about this who has verified my identity and directed me to this page, but if you need to reach me privately for whatever reason, my contact info is in the “About” page of my website at http://reaganlodge.com Reaganlodge (wallcontribs) 16:52, February 20, 2016 (UTC)

Approved for discussion.
Following the standard of this wiki, I'd prefer the real photo to be in the infobox image. However, I cannot deny personal preference of the subject of the page (spirits, that sounds clinical, sorry ^^") to not have their real image out there but a drawn one instead. After all, we all also have our own chosen avatars to represent us, so I'd say the same holds true for Reagan. As such, I support the change to proposal 2. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 18:00, February 20, 2016 (UTC)
I agree with Lady Lostris and support #2. DyingFlameTsui (wallcontribs) 00:43, February 21, 2016 (UTC)
I also agree (and what a neat trivia point to add to the page that he himself drew his own profile pic!) Waterbending emblem Water Spout 01:40, February 22, 2016 (UTC)

Prison rig captain

This discussion is closed. The result of this discussion was:
Proposal will be the new infobox image.
Please do not edit this discussion.

While it's not ideal that he's looking to the side, it's a downside that is covered by the fact that the image is in color and thus has better lighting than the current. Considering this is also a change for a new page, I'd like to call for the one day procedure if everyone is in agreement. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 20:18, February 1, 2016 (UTC)

Approved and support per proposal. ― Thailog 21:50, February 9, 2016 (UTC)
I oppose the proposal, solely because (after reviewing the episode) I do not believe the character in the proposed image is intended to be the same character. Granted, both have very similar character design; however, the captain has additional chin-strap facial hair that the second guard does not. Furthermore, the captain is voiced by Dee Bradley Baker, while the character displayed in the proposed image is not. Perhaps this should be discussed elsewhere, but I felt inclined to mention it here. Bolin spriteZiryerxPainted Lady (wallcontribsfanon) 23:19, February 9, 2016 (UTC)
I agree with Ziryerx. SorcererSupreme21 (wallcontribs) 07:29, February 13, 2016 (UTC)
Please consider the following: Dee Bradley Baker was not officially credited with voicing the captain, he was just credited with an additional voice. Additionally, what Ziryerx describes to be "chin-strap facial hair" seems to me to just be the chin strap of the helmet itself. As you can see in the proposed, the helmet has such a strap, and when you couple it with these images, one and two, (admittedly, you have to look closely), you can see that the captain has no "chin-strap facial hair", just what looks to be a chin-strap. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 11:10, February 13, 2016 (UTC)
I don't particularly think they would have gone out of their way designing two similar characters, or recycling the same character design without knowing it would be taken as the same character. I think LL gives solid arguments for her reasoning, and I agree with her on this one. Waterbending emblem Water Spout 17:58, February 23, 2016 (UTC)
Not that I'm completely disagreeing, but wouldn't it be more out of the way for the character designers to create two separate characters rather than only one? Additionally, a similar counterargument could be made that they did go out of the way to use two different voice actors for the characters to distinguish the two. Bolin spriteZiryerxPainted Lady (wallcontribsfanon) 18:29, February 29, 2016 (UTC)

A factual correction: there is no proof beyond personal opinion that they used two different voice actors -unless an objective source has been found since the last time that notion was raised. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 22:25, February 29, 2016 (UTC)

Smoke and Shadow

This discussion is closed. The result of this discussion was:
Proposed will be the new image.
Please do not edit this discussion.

Per standard, the proposed is the hardcover. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 21:45, February 9, 2016 (UTC)

Approved and support per proposal. ― Thailog 21:50, February 9, 2016 (UTC)

Duels (174 AG)

This discussion is closed. The result of this discussion was:
Proposal 2 will be the new infobox.
Please do not edit this discussion.

The current image is also used further down on the page, where it fits its respective battle. Considering that there are other unused battle images, it makes sense to change the profile image to another image we already have uploaded somewhere else. A such, I made a selection of three images. #1 is a unicum: it features no flashy bending, just a nonbender going at someone else. For that reason alone, I kind of like it :-) #2 portrays the battle between mecha suits, hinting at how much more modernized the fighting tools have become in 174 AG. #3 depicts the big battle and the antagonist/protagonist (sort of) of the last book.
Personally, I prefer the first just because of its simplicity and the fact that it showcases a nonbender in battle. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 12:17, January 14, 2016 (UTC)

Approved for discussion. I am leaning more toward PR2, because I like highlighting the more mechanized evolution of duels by 174 AG. Waterbending emblem Water Spout 16:03, January 18, 2016 (UTC)
PR 1 might be unique, but I do think it's rather dull, and I don't really see it as a proper profile image. I still like the current, since it is the most significant battle in the series, but Lostris' argument for changing it is sound. PR 3 doesn't really show a duel, so that brings me to PR 2. I agree with Water Spouts reasoning, that it's a nice display of the mecha tanks that we see a lot of in Book 4, and strictly speaken, also appeases Lostris' need for a non-bender, as Zhu Li is piloting one of the two mecha tanks pictured ;). So yeah, I'm for PR 2. Aang Cosmic AvatarAang7 (My wall - My fanon) 19:33, January 18, 2016 (UTC)
Just to be clear, I don't "need" there to be a non-bender and Zhu Li being a pilot is irrelevant as #2 is just "clash of the robots" :-p It's just a nice touch in my opinion to go for simplicity and highlight that not all battles in the Avatar world are fought with flashy elements or cool toys. Nonbenders are a part of the world too (the entire TLoK book 1 was about that), so I do think it's somewhat sad to dismiss a nonbending duel as "dull" just because the sparks aren't literally flying off the image. As for context: there are another robot image on the page itself, but nowhere is there a nonbending duel featured. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 20:08, January 18, 2016 (UTC)
For the record, I'm not dismissing it as 'dull' because it's with a non-bender, I'm doing that because I think that particular image is a bit dull. I prefer #2 because it's more unique to 174 AG, as the only other mecha tank battle consists of two whole punches between Hiroshi and Asami in the Book 1 finale. Also, I do believe the guy that Kai fought for the food was a non-bender, or at least, he didn't display any. Aang Cosmic AvatarAang7 (My wall - My fanon) 20:50, January 18, 2016 (UTC)

The guy may have been a nonbender, but the image portraying that battle has airbending on it, and on the Duels (174 AG) page, there is another image of the same fight #2 comes from, so the tanks are already portrayed visually on the page. That's what I meant with "no nonbending visualization", because every always seem to have something flashy drawing attention away from them. Lady Lostris vstf (talkHotN) 20:58, January 18, 2016 (UTC)

I personally like proposal 2 the best, as it demonstrates both the standard duel plus the major technological davancements made in that time. SorcererSupreme21 (wallcontribs) 06:54, January 20, 2016 (UTC)

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